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Richard Payne

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Richard Payne

Birth
Virginia, USA
Death
1696
Burial
Horners, Westmoreland County, Virginia, USA Add to Map
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Brooke Payne, The Paynes of Virginia (Harrisonburg, Virginia: C. J. Carrier Company, 1937), p. 53
"There is a private note of unknown origin to the effect that he was b. 12 May 1633 at "Round Towers", Nb. Co. Hayden also says that he was of Nb. Co., b. 1633. In Munsell's "American Ancestry:, p. 71, Vol. VI, it is stated that he was of Nb. Co., b. 1633 at "Round Tower". But in none of these three cases just quoted is any authority or source of information named. The only acceptable authority that be offered for such a statement would be a Bible, Parish, or Court record; and none of these has ever been produced or referred to. Nor is there any light thrown on the location of "Round Towers" by public or private records, nor on the source from which the name was derived. It is extremely doubtful that as early as 1633 there were any English settlements in the Indian district of Chickacoan, from which Northumberland was created a county in 1648. The Middlesex Parish Register records that on 24 Feb 1650 Richard Perrott was born, "being the first man child that was got and borne in Rappahannock River of English parents". All these considerations lead one inevitably to challenge the authenticity of these reports concerning Richard Payne's birth. That John Payne did have a son Richard is evidenced by the deed by John Payne to his son Richard in 1655 or a heifer named Coll, recorded in Lc. Co.; and by the deed by Richard Payne to George Payne in 1696 of 60 a. on the N.S. of Pepetick Cr. given by John Payne to his son Richard, recorded in Ri. Co. Barring these two deeds, there is a complete absence of Court records relating to Richard.

He is accepted as the ancestor of Branch A of the family merely because tradition has it that way; because all Court records tend to confirm the tradition; and because there are no records suggesting some one else as the ancestor in question. It is believed that he was born later that 1633, since his father was born @ 1615. There is nothing in the surviving records of Ri. Co. to indicate whom he married or when he died; the first will book of that county (1692-1699) is missing."
Brooke Payne, The Paynes of Virginia (Harrisonburg, Virginia: C. J. Carrier Company, 1937), p. 53
"There is a private note of unknown origin to the effect that he was b. 12 May 1633 at "Round Towers", Nb. Co. Hayden also says that he was of Nb. Co., b. 1633. In Munsell's "American Ancestry:, p. 71, Vol. VI, it is stated that he was of Nb. Co., b. 1633 at "Round Tower". But in none of these three cases just quoted is any authority or source of information named. The only acceptable authority that be offered for such a statement would be a Bible, Parish, or Court record; and none of these has ever been produced or referred to. Nor is there any light thrown on the location of "Round Towers" by public or private records, nor on the source from which the name was derived. It is extremely doubtful that as early as 1633 there were any English settlements in the Indian district of Chickacoan, from which Northumberland was created a county in 1648. The Middlesex Parish Register records that on 24 Feb 1650 Richard Perrott was born, "being the first man child that was got and borne in Rappahannock River of English parents". All these considerations lead one inevitably to challenge the authenticity of these reports concerning Richard Payne's birth. That John Payne did have a son Richard is evidenced by the deed by John Payne to his son Richard in 1655 or a heifer named Coll, recorded in Lc. Co.; and by the deed by Richard Payne to George Payne in 1696 of 60 a. on the N.S. of Pepetick Cr. given by John Payne to his son Richard, recorded in Ri. Co. Barring these two deeds, there is a complete absence of Court records relating to Richard.

He is accepted as the ancestor of Branch A of the family merely because tradition has it that way; because all Court records tend to confirm the tradition; and because there are no records suggesting some one else as the ancestor in question. It is believed that he was born later that 1633, since his father was born @ 1615. There is nothing in the surviving records of Ri. Co. to indicate whom he married or when he died; the first will book of that county (1692-1699) is missing."


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  • Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/64830377/richard-payne: accessed ), memorial page for Richard Payne (unknown–1696), Find a Grave Memorial ID 64830377, citing Payne Burying-Ground Red House-Cedar Hill, Horners, Westmoreland County, Virginia, USA; Maintained by Trish (contributor 47334277).